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www.donotcall.gov is the official FTC site where one can register to "opt out" of telemarketing phone calls. It's a nice idea, but done the wrong way.
7/27/2003 22:18:23

Suppose I designed a system such that I would come into your house and rifle through your refrigerator unless you called a special number opting out. You could register via my web site, but you'd have to supply an email address to confirm you're actually opting out of this. After all, we don't want other people to fraudently deprive you of this exciting and unique opportunity.

The mechanism to take you off the fridge list works like this: every quarter I download a "do not rifle" list. I'm obliged to remove everyone on this list from my list. (Or, easier still, I could assume that if you're not on this list, you must want me to rifle...)

There are couple of obvious loopholes. First, there's the "previous relationship" option... even if you're on the do not call list, I can still call you if we've had a previous relationship. For example, I saw Apollo 13 with Kevin Bacon. Kevin Bacon starred in the movie Quicksilver, where he played a bike messenger, you've ridden a bike. Nous sommes comme des frères! "Would you like that vinyl siding in lime green or Pepto-Bismol pink?"

Second, I could be doing this for political or charitable purposes. This seems to offer an opportunity for the combined solicitation/sales pitch: Would you like to buy a time share in Belize and Support our telemarketing reform?"

If I don't adhere to these strict guidlines I could face stiff fines. Let's do some quick math: the government entity in charge of enforcing this has a budget of $18.7 million. They're estimating that 60,000,000 people will sign up by the end of six months. Punching numbers into my HP calculator.... this is tricky with all those zeros... that's less than first class stamp (37 cents) per person. [N.B. As of 7/28/03, they've registered over 28 million.]


Despite it being watered down and implemented "backwards," it's a nice baby step. I predict it's only a matter of time before the truly sleazy telemarketing organizations employ Internet-based phone services -- soon to become a burgeoning industry.

I found some other things you can do to reduce other solicitations.
  • Stop preapproved credit card offers by calling 888-567-8688. If you want to permanently opt out, you have to return a written form they send you.
  • Remove yourself from the DMA mailing list by going to DMA web site. You have to get off lists for each form — telephone, e-mail and postal mail — separately. DMA members who don't currently do business with you will be blocked for five years. You can stop e-mail solicitations free of charge online, but you have to drop a Lincoln (pay $5) to get your name off any mail and telephone lists. (The DMA touts this to the members as an opportunity to not waste money on people who don't want to be contacted. Works for me.)
  • Ask companies with whom you do business to not share or sell your information. Most companies do have the opt-out lists, but some rely on list selling as an income stream. In my personal experience, magazines and retail software companies are the worst offenders. The "shopper preference" cards seem to honor the requests. (And if you don't feel confident they will, order a sticker on top of it.
  • Some companies are required to contact their customers once a year and allow them to "opt out." Unfortunately, many of these notices are written with cryptic latin phrases with the actual "opt out" part deep within the document(s).
    For example, I received a packet from Sears. Ten pages, in a teeny but forbidding font, were on the cardholder account. There were lots of rambling passages conveying key points like "if you charge something on the credit card, you have to pay for it." As if ten pages weren't enough, there was a two-page addendum, a four page addendum to the addendum and, oh yeah, a four-page privacy statement.
    While the Sears Privacy Policy lacks specifics ("What do you mean by 'demographic information'?"), it is moderately readable... once you get past the other stuff. A sample passage:
    About the businesses with whom we share your information
    To meet your needs with quality goods and services, we may share your information [...] as described below:
    Type of BusinessWhat Information We May Share
    Outside contractors and service ProvidersWe may share the following information with Outside Contractors and Service PRoviders:
    • Your name, contact information and account number. Your account number will be encrypted if it is shared with companies offering marketing services
    • Your purchase history and demographic data
    • The account information necessary to process your account purchases or otherwise service your account
    These are companies such as printers or Sears Dealer stores that perform services on Sears Credit's and Sears behalf. This category also includes other financial institutions, such as insurance companies, with whom Sears Credit has joint marketing agreements.
  • Finally, the Center for Democracy and Technology, an activist organization in Washington, also has some useful information.
    8/31/2003 update -- a few people have written in the comments section requesting that I opt them out. Please see the followup article.


    (10/03/2003): The status of donotcall.gov is currently in legal question. Please see the official web site. A thorough explanation is available at at Findlaw (Not that anyone actually reads this far...)
  • 19 Comments:
    Sean wrote on (July 29, 2003 6:55 PM)

    Another problem is that it's just as easy to remove someone from donotcall.gov as it is to add someone. A telemarketer can remove your name from the do not call list by using their email address with your phone number.

    barry geller wrote on (August 30, 2003 6:55 PM)

    I want to be taken off the list so I do not get any more telemarketing phone calls and e-mails. If this is the wrong web site for this, please e-mail me and tell me. Thank-you, Barry Geller

    legs & carole labbe wrote on (August 31, 2003 4:42 AM)

    Phone 207 8343695

    glenn wrote on (August 31, 2003 5:48 AM)

    i do not want to receive any more soliciting on the phone.

    carson wrote on (August 31, 2003 9:53 AM)

    A few people have written in the comments section requesting that I opt them out. Since Legs & Carole Labbe of Ft. Kent, ME, left a phone number, I took the liberty of registering them with donotcall.gov. However I'm not the one in charge of donotcall.gov.

    Johnnie Masterson wrote on (August 31, 2003 3:57 PM)

    I do not want any more telemarketing phone calls and emails I want to be taken off all listings

    Bonnie Clement wrote on (August 31, 2003 7:21 PM)

    Please donot send e-mails or phone calls.

    carson wrote on (August 31, 2003 9:16 PM)

    Please see my latest entry, http://www.jimcarson.com/rsvp/archives/000080.html, for more details.

    ORTIZ AGUSTIN/MARIA wrote on (September 1, 2003 9:22 AM)

    WE DO NOT WANT ANY MORE TELEMARKETING PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS ,WE WANT TO BE TAKEN OFF ALL LISTENINGS

    Rhonda Otiker wrote on (September 1, 2003 10:14 AM)

    I think the do not call lists will be excellent. I for one hate to receive telemarketing calls. Just because I order something from them once does not mean I wish to be pestered for the next two years about ordering another, newer release that their company is offering. If I wanted an newer one I would order it. It is a breach of my privacy to be called by unsolicited telemarketers.

    Marie Simpson wrote on (September 1, 2003 6:48 PM)

    Rhonda: When you order from a vendor, you have a "prior business relationship," which implicitly lets them off the hook for contacting you in the future. It's less clear if, say, ordering a dress from Sears means that Sears' vinyl siding subsidiary can't contact you.
    - MS

    Marcia Rood wrote on (September 26, 2003 3:27 PM)

    Telamakers are polluting the phone lines causing
    me to screen all my calls. Please remove my name
    from the list so I can have to freedom to answer my phone again.

    Edward Klotz wrote on (October 2, 2003 3:51 PM)

    I registered for the donotcall on june 27,2003 with 3 phone numbers. I have a print out of the verification of registration complete on all 3 numbers. since October1, I have gotten more then normal telemarket calls. I then did a verify on all 3 numbers at the do not call site. 2 of them are ok, but the main number apparently has been removed, or not posted into the registry to begin with. This is the first place I have found to even complain about it. I did re-register the number again. Now it won't take effect for 3 months. What is to prevent it from happening again, and how can I find out how it may have been removed. Any input would be appreaciated. Thank you

    carson wrote on (October 3, 2003 12:00 PM)

    The status of donotcall.gov is currently in legal question. Please see the official web site at:

    http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/edcams/donotcall
    There is a thorough explanation at Findlaw
    (http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/10/02/findlaw.analysis.dorf.dont.call/)
    Without knowing more specifics, there also many flaws in the system. You could be receiving calls based upon a pre-existing business relationship to a marketing partner. It would also behoove you to use some of the suggestions noted above like contacting the DMA to be taken off their list or asking the specific telemarketer to take you off their list.

    J Gerth wrote on (October 9, 2003 7:07 AM)

    I do not want to be called from telemarketing.
    Thanks 417-332-1240 Please let me know if you removed me.

    Laura Hoey wrote on (October 12, 2003 6:15 PM)

    I have found the most effective way to get off mailing lists for crediet cards, etc. is to mail everything back to them in their own self addressed, stamped envelope with the words TAKE ME OFF YOUR LIST written across the front. Very effective. I've even considered getting a ribber stamp. If I'm having a really bad day I'll add something to the envelope, since they have to pay by weight. An added benefit, it's very cathartic.

    Luis A. Batres wrote on (July 14, 2004 7:03 PM)

    I need to stop any telemarketing call

    steve wrote on (March 26, 2005 7:54 AM)

    Over the last few years companies have got around the do not call lists. They have either a "restricted" or an "unavailable" number call you. In the last two years this has happened to me over 200 times, all times of night and day. The phone company says it can not do anything. The FTC. needs a number to "GO after".
    What is I can now do?
    Is the phone company enabling these companies?

    Kathy wrote on (April 5, 2007 2:39 PM)

    I tryed to put my phone number on your do not call list.and I put my e mail address all correct,but it will not except my e mail address...why?,,I checked it four times and it is my e mail address but you wont except it...HELP...boogie_woogie94@yahoo.com

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