• Fun with Amazon.com
    • Ganglioneuroma: Rarest and most benign
    • It's done
    • Fun with Yelp...
    • That's no moon...
    • Online classes
    • Insert your getting stoned joke here
    • The new Gmail look and feel...
    • Garmin 60Csx vs Oregon 450
    • Our 2011 Apple Harvest
    • Expense report
    • Hard Drive Destruction
    • It's the small things...
    • Random passwords
    • Cherry Dutch Baby
    • The paperless office needs a paperless toilet
    • Cilantro-pistachio pesto pesto, rice and beans
    • My first iPhone hide
    • Yeast Waffles
    • Seiko battery replacement
    • Nikon D40 won't power up
    • Mapnificent
    • Geocache Queries
    • iPhone 4 travel map
    • I'm Here To Put You Back On Schedule
    • Disruptive technologies
    • Fraud alert
    • Cleaning between the door glass of a Frigidaire oven
    • Snap, Crackle and Pop
    • Dolphin Kick
    Kitchenaid in progress Mixer’s done

    There’s Water at the Bottom of the Ocean

    By jim On 19 April 2007 · 11 Comments · In Diatribe, Marketing, Politics

    Brian posted an article about Splenda. Not Scout’s bike Splenda, but the chemical sweetener in the yellow packets. The website he referenced cites a couple of sources, including a Sugar Industry Sponsored Web Site.



    As I wrote on Brian’s bog, when I read these things on the web, one of my first questions is about the motivation of the entity publishing the information.


    In this case, TAS comes out and says it’s published by the Sugar Industry, a group that has an obvious and direct financial interest in Splenda’s downfall. Normally it’s not as obvious who’s funding the “research.” Regardless, any reading of the site should be done with your bullshit shields on maximum alert.


    This site is rife with marketing tricks and psychology. For example, consider this nugget from the FAQs:

    Is the chlorine in Splenda any different than the chlorine used in swimming pools?

    No. The same atoms of chlorine that are used in products to disinfect swimming pools are also found in Splenda.

    Guess what, ordinary table salt has the same atoms of chlorine that are used in products to disinfect swimming pools. Oh no — it’s a conspiracy by the Brotherhood of Chlorinated Illuminati! The airport shoe terrorists are smuggling sodium chloride in ordinary, table-top dispensers! And it’s in our seawater!



    Puh-lease.



    The objection I have with these sources is that they pretend to have your best interests in mind, but in fact are part of a grand marketing scheme, employing numerous techniques to create fear, uncertainty and doubt about their opponent’s product, while at the same time implying their own product is fine.
    According to the NY Times:

    Equal has a powerful if unlikely ally in its battle against Splenda: the Sugar Association, a trade and lobbying group for the $10 billion American natural sugar industry. The association has separately sued Splenda’s makers over its claims to be related to sugar. [...]
    Last year, [Splenda] had sales of $212 million, dwarfing Equal’s sales of $49 million.



    The truth is consuming mass quantities of Splenda, sugar, table salt, chlorinated pool chemicals, entire swimming pools, or Scout’s bike is certainly not healthy.



    For a sample analysis of how public relations and marketing are used to mold public opinion, read Trust Us, We’re Experts and Toxic Sludge is Good for You! by
    Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber. (More info: here, or you can find it at the library.)
    The next time you see an ad by the “Concerned Citizens for the Preservation of Yatta Yatta,” you’ll be more inclined to question who benefits financially from Yatta Yatta, perhaps concluding that they are actually the entire group of “Concerned Citizens.” Just keep this in mind during the next election.
     

    • Share:
    Share →
    Tweet

    11 Responses to There’s Water at the Bottom of the Ocean

    1. Scout says:
      19 April 2007 at 17:23

      Carry the water at the bottom of the ocean
      Remove the water at the bottom of the ocean!

      In addition to David Byrne and his friends, I also love Splenda, and I don’t care if they make it out of belladonna and beetle dung.

      Reply
    2. Jim says:
      19 April 2007 at 19:57

      Scout, as always, you rule!

      Lisa – I wouldn’t use anything but sugar in cooking. If I sweeten my iced tea, I prefer saccharine because it dissolves well. I’m a big Fresca drinker at work, and that has aspartame (“Nutrasweet”). I generally try to avoid corn syrup.

      The shooting match between Splenda and Nutrasweet is because both have big market shares. It’s funny to hear Nutrasweet talk because they’ve been exceptionally iron-fisted with their patent enforcement. Reason: it’s a lotta money.

      Reply
    3. Lisa says:
      19 April 2007 at 19:32

      I prefer Nutrasweet/Equal, only because I want my sugar alternative to taste not so much like sugar. :)

      Reply
    4. Brian says:
      19 April 2007 at 22:57

      While at times I try to cut down on the number of cans of cola I drink and I’m disappointed Jolt Cola switched from sugar to high fructose corn syrup like the other cola manufacturers, I can’t stand “Nutrasweet” (possibly also known as aspartame) and can detect the taste with just a sip. Regarding Splenda (aka Sucralose), it is not quite as easy to notice (especially if you don’t read the label as manufacturers that use sucralose rather than the name brand product “Splenda” bury it in the ingredients list). It took me a while to finally notice that the Nestle Milkshake products I used to love had that familiar “off” taste with the chocolate – my sign that “Splenda” / sucralose is likely in the product. Quickly reading the list of ingredients and there it was – sucralose. Therefore, it is yet another product I will avoid / boycott. I rather deal with high fructose corn syrup and sugar than artificial sweeteners (designed mainly for diabetes patients).

      Reply
    5. Brian says:
      19 April 2007 at 22:59

      Since each side in the “sweetener war” has their “chosen favorite” and reasons why they stand behind it, this is likely yet another “Shimano vs. Campy” debate ;)

      Reply
    6. Brian says:
      19 April 2007 at 23:03

      Regarding salt, I have containers of salt sitting in my kitchen cabinet gathering dust as I don’t use the stuff when I’m cooking. If the food ends up “salty” it’s because whatever was added (like gumbo mix or sausage) already contained the stuff. Having had “high” blood pressure for several months (possibly due to lack of time on the bike but mainly due to eating “fast food” day after day – something I can’t do these days since I work graveyard shift currently – though I’d love to find a job on day shift somewhere).

      Reply
    7. Taylor says:
      20 April 2007 at 1:04

      I know exactly what you mean! I detest artificial sweeteners because I can taste the difference so easily and its unbearable but to go on a boycott based on the sugar industry’s pseudo-science is silly.

      Reply
    8. John says:
      20 April 2007 at 5:36

      Speaking of David Byrne, he’s an avid cyclist. He just had his bicycle stolen, however.

      Reply
    9. Scout says:
      20 April 2007 at 6:48

      Dude. David Byrne’s hair is as awesome as ever.

      Reply
    10. woodstock says:
      20 April 2007 at 11:37

      I have to agree with the artificial sweetner thing: I can always taste it and I don’t like it.

      I’m not going to say any one product is better than another but I prefer the real stuff and have, indeed, switched to raw sugar for all my non-baking needs (which admittedly extend only to a cup of decaf every now and then and a regularly occuring cup of tea every day).

      I just think we’d all be better off if we put less man-made crap into our bodies. Yes, I know: sugar is refined but I defy anyone to find me a field full of aspartame ;)

      PS: I’m actually working my way through my first bike. The tires aren’t bad if you use a lot of hot sauce.

      Reply
    11. Brenda Helverson says:
      20 April 2007 at 20:54

      We used nothing but Equal in our iced tea until Costco started carrying Splenda. Some years ago I stopped using Equal in anything hot because it appeared that it was affecting my mood – urban legend or not. I have not tried Spenda in hot things and still only use sugar for cooking.

      Reply

    Leave a Reply Cancel reply

    Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

    *

    *

    You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>

    • Recent Posts

      • Fun with Amazon.com
      • Ganglioneuroma: Rarest and most benign
      • It’s done
      • Fun with Yelp…
      • That’s no moon…
      • Online classes
      • Insert your getting stoned joke here
      • The new Gmail look and feel…
      • Garmin 60Csx vs Oregon 450
      • Our 2011 Apple Harvest
      • Expense report
      • Hard Drive Destruction
      • It’s the small things…
      • Random passwords
      • Cherry Dutch Baby
    • Recent Comments

      • Fun with Amazon.com
        • Kiri: The TWM Raven-parody is priceless. Thanks for sharing all these weird and funky...
      • It’s done
        • Kiri: I was fascinated to get this gown’s-eye-vie w of the hospital and surgery...
        • jim: Thanks, you all. I am feeling much better. @John – When I knew the surgery...
      • Cleaning between the door glass of a Frigidaire oven
        • Lisa Bishop: Thanks so much! This was a great help in cleaning our oven door after a...
        • Tracey: Thanks for your post on how to clean between the door. I can’t stand...
        • Krys: Thanks for the awesome post. Lo and behold found out my door comes out…...
        • winniekate: OK. I’ve got a Kenmore 790 3 ys ago. Got the same drip in my glass...
        • Kate: I say that to my 30-year-old fiance on a fairly regular basis as well. ;)
      • Ganglioneuroma: Rarest and most benign
        • jim: Thanks, guys. @Phil – I am looking forward to our next hike! @John –...
    • Twits

      • @sbrisko kk000ll!!!!!!1111!!1! I can't decide if I want to call it "The Vault" or "Flagship Frodo." 09:34:31 PM February 07, 2012 in reply to sbrisko ReplyRetweetFavorite
      • Writing a letter to cancel a credit card is so much more efficient than calling and having to deal with the retention department. 01:43:45 AM February 07, 2012 ReplyRetweetFavorite
      • @doomnibbler Sounds promising, but needs a #handie hashtag. 12:44:56 AM February 06, 2012 in reply to doomnibbler ReplyRetweetFavorite
      • RT @mightyrosebud: Just read a list of "100 things to do before you die". I'm surprised "yell for help" wasn't one of them." 01:54:18 AM January 30, 2012 ReplyRetweetFavorite
      • @voxkev Let me know if you find an app. I used a python script (http://t.co/tTN5PlRq). For music, Dupin helps identify dupes. 08:41:07 AM January 28, 2012 in reply to voxkev ReplyRetweetFavorite
      @jim_carson
    Unknown Twitter error.  — jim_carson
    loading Cancel
    Post was not sent - check your email addresses!
    Email check failed, please try again
    Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email.