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	<title>Comments on: Plane versus Train</title>
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	<description>Three standard deviations from the mean</description>
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		<title>By: Planes and trains &#124; sqrt(-1): Jim Carson, reloaded</title>
		<link>http://www.jimcarson.com/2007/plane-versus-train/comment-page-1/#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>Planes and trains &#124; sqrt(-1): Jim Carson, reloaded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a while, it looked like I was going to be wrong about what I said regarding the plane versus train decision.  The aircraft had &#8220;a mechanical [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://www.jimcarson.com/2007/plane-versus-train/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;John&lt;/b&gt; - romance-factor was certainly a ... factor.  For the OKJ to SEA segment, fare was $87 (less a discount for being an AAA member).  Adding the smallest suite was another $166 for the room.  Split with a friend, that would be a bargain. 

&lt;b&gt;Allen&lt;/b&gt; - how awful!  (But I know from whom the airlines learned.)  A coworker also told me that they tend to run out of food (!) on the longer trips. 

&lt;b&gt;Scout&lt;/b&gt; - I didn't realize you took the train down for the flight out, but the irony of travel time is not lost.  I understand the Coast Starlight (which plies the Vancouver to Eugene corridor) allows one to bring a bike for a mere $5 extra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>John</b> - romance-factor was certainly a &#8230; factor.  For the OKJ to SEA segment, fare was $87 (less a discount for being an AAA member).  Adding the smallest suite was another $166 for the room.  Split with a friend, that would be a bargain. </p>
<p><b>Allen</b> - how awful!  (But I know from whom the airlines learned.)  A coworker also told me that they tend to run out of food (!) on the longer trips. </p>
<p><b>Scout</b> - I didn&#8217;t realize you took the train down for the flight out, but the irony of travel time is not lost.  I understand the Coast Starlight (which plies the Vancouver to Eugene corridor) allows one to bring a bike for a mere $5 extra.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://www.jimcarson.com/2007/plane-versus-train/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Kiri&lt;/b&gt; This is a funny statement because &lt;i&gt;your trip last year&lt;/i&gt; was what inspired me to consider the train.  I could have probably taken the train &lt;b&gt;south&lt;/b&gt; for a little while, then flew back to Seattle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Kiri</b> This is a funny statement because <i>your trip last year</i> was what inspired me to consider the train.  I could have probably taken the train <b>south</b> for a little while, then flew back to Seattle.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiri</title>
		<link>http://www.jimcarson.com/2007/plane-versus-train/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny -- your earlier comment about taking the train had inspired me to check whether I could do the same thing.  From L.A., it's an 11-hour ride to Oakland, then 30 minutes across the Bay on the BART.  Not *too* bad.  But I have to fly back early to take a course final, and that means leaving my car at the airport, and things started to get sufficiently complicated that I think I'll have to pass on the train trip this time.  Darn!

Btw, the Coast Starlight *does* travel the coast, but only on the part south of San Francisco. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny &#8212; your earlier comment about taking the train had inspired me to check whether I could do the same thing.  From L.A., it&#8217;s an 11-hour ride to Oakland, then 30 minutes across the Bay on the BART.  Not *too* bad.  But I have to fly back early to take a course final, and that means leaving my car at the airport, and things started to get sufficiently complicated that I think I&#8217;ll have to pass on the train trip this time.  Darn!</p>
<p>Btw, the Coast Starlight *does* travel the coast, but only on the part south of San Francisco. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Scout</title>
		<link>http://www.jimcarson.com/2007/plane-versus-train/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jarrett and I took the Coast Starlight down to California's bay area before flying out to Japan from SFO. We found it amusing that our trip from one state to another took almost twice as long as the flight to another country.

All the same, I also share John's romance with trains, and prefer to ride them whenever time is not an issue. For what it's worth, our train arrived in PDX early!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jarrett and I took the Coast Starlight down to California&#8217;s bay area before flying out to Japan from SFO. We found it amusing that our trip from one state to another took almost twice as long as the flight to another country.</p>
<p>All the same, I also share John&#8217;s romance with trains, and prefer to ride them whenever time is not an issue. For what it&#8217;s worth, our train arrived in PDX early!</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.jimcarson.com/2007/plane-versus-train/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I last rode the Coast-Starlight around 1977.  We left Oakland at 8:00pm on Friday night.  We were due into Seattle at 7:00 PM Saturday night.  The Coast-Starlight arrived in Seattle at approximately 7:00pm Saturday night.  However, we were not aboard it.  The physical train we were on did not arrive until 5:00pm Sunday night.  We had been delayed by derailments which we had to be bussed around, replacement train crews that never showed up after our train crew went off work (4 hours in Portland before they could rustle up a new crew), and myriads of other delays and slow downs.
When "our" Coast-Starlight had failed to show up anywhere near time in Portland, they sent a new train on to Seattle so the Coast-Starlight maintained it's on time record.

I loved trains, but that's when I gave up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I last rode the Coast-Starlight around 1977.  We left Oakland at 8:00pm on Friday night.  We were due into Seattle at 7:00 PM Saturday night.  The Coast-Starlight arrived in Seattle at approximately 7:00pm Saturday night.  However, we were not aboard it.  The physical train we were on did not arrive until 5:00pm Sunday night.  We had been delayed by derailments which we had to be bussed around, replacement train crews that never showed up after our train crew went off work (4 hours in Portland before they could rustle up a new crew), and myriads of other delays and slow downs.<br />
When &#8220;our&#8221; Coast-Starlight had failed to show up anywhere near time in Portland, they sent a new train on to Seattle so the Coast-Starlight maintained it&#8217;s on time record.</p>
<p>I loved trains, but that&#8217;s when I gave up.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a romance-factor with riding the train, so I'd go by rail if time were not a factor.  I'd also get a suite, however.  My last trip on the Coast-Starlight was over 15 years ago, and the clientèle in coach had (for the most part) just graduated from riding the Greyhound.

My 4 year old son took a special liking to one young woman, coercing her to read him multiple stories.  "Kids like me, but parents usually don't..." "Oh, why?"  "Because I'm an exotic dancer".  Chip off the old block, that kid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a romance-factor with riding the train, so I&#8217;d go by rail if time were not a factor.  I&#8217;d also get a suite, however.  My last trip on the Coast-Starlight was over 15 years ago, and the clientèle in coach had (for the most part) just graduated from riding the Greyhound.</p>
<p>My 4 year old son took a special liking to one young woman, coercing her to read him multiple stories.  &#8220;Kids like me, but parents usually don&#8217;t&#8230;&#8221; &#8220;Oh, why?&#8221;  &#8220;Because I&#8217;m an exotic dancer&#8221;.  Chip off the old block, that kid.</p>
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