Comments on: Seattle to Portland (STP) - part I http://www.jimcarson.com/2004/seattle-to-portland-stp-part-i/ Three standard deviations from the mean Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:31:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Claire http://www.jimcarson.com/2004/seattle-to-portland-stp-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1315 Claire Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:29:23 +0000 http://www.jimcarson.com/2004/seattle-to-portland-stp-part-i/#comment-1315 The smartest thing I read here was the two bags thing, with one bag to Portland, the other to Castle Rock. I always wondered how people worked it when they say they might complete the whole thing in one day, but maybe not. I felt a big "d'oh!" when I read this. The smartest thing I read here was the two bags thing, with one bag to Portland, the other to Castle Rock. I always wondered how people worked it when they say they might complete the whole thing in one day, but maybe not. I felt a big “d’oh!” when I read this.

]]> By: carson http://www.jimcarson.com/2004/seattle-to-portland-stp-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1314 carson Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:23:41 +0000 http://www.jimcarson.com/2004/seattle-to-portland-stp-part-i/#comment-1314 Some numbers from Cascade: 8,051 riders - including volunteers and safety riders 1,845 riders completed the trip in one day. At 23%, that Some numbers from Cascade:
8,051 riders - including volunteers and safety riders
1,845 riders completed the trip in one day. At 23%, that

]]> By: TimF http://www.jimcarson.com/2004/seattle-to-portland-stp-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1313 TimF Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:38:05 +0000 http://www.jimcarson.com/2004/seattle-to-portland-stp-part-i/#comment-1313 I should have added that this was my 3rd STP. I did two-day rides in both 2001 and 2003, stopping in Winlock both times. Tim Fellows (#191) I should have added that this was my 3rd STP. I did two-day rides in both 2001 and 2003, stopping in Winlock both times.

Tim Fellows (#191)

]]> By: TimF http://www.jimcarson.com/2004/seattle-to-portland-stp-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1312 TimF Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:27:39 +0000 http://www.jimcarson.com/2004/seattle-to-portland-stp-part-i/#comment-1312 Hi Jim, I kept looking for you, but never saw you. I didn't end up starting until 5:20am and may have passed you at the Napavine or Winlock rest stops (about the right time). You arrived in Portland about an hour before I did on Sunday (I was meeting the two day riders from my 'club' and handing out ice water [see below]) and were probably already gone. I made it in One Day!! (though it was getting pretty dark by the time I arrived). Depart Seattle 5:20am " Spanaway 9:14am " Centralia 12:30pm (101.5 miles, 17.6mph avg) " Lexington 4:32pm " St. Helens, OR 7:05pm Arrive Portland, OR 8:55pm (104.5 miles, 16.0mph avg) Overall 12:16 Riding Time (206.2 mi/16.8mph avg) 15:35 Total Time Comments: The new Litespeed performed flawlessly, no flats, no mechanical trouble. If I ever do one day again though, I'll add some basic triathlon bars as you need extra position options on such a long ride. No real aches and pains except for my left knee coming into Spanaway. As usual, it went away after the rest stop and never returned. No saddle sores, thank God for chamois cream!!! I didn't have a riding partner which allowed me to control my own pace/schedule, but also didn't give me somebody to pull me through the inevitable bad stretches. I had planned to minimize my rest stop time, but found it harder to do as the day wore on and it got hotter. A buddy of similar speed would have helped. I wasn't able to pick up as many pacelines as I thought I might. Either they were too fast, or the groups were so large (>10) that they became dangerous. After 175 miles, the same rest stop food of watermelon, oranges, grapes, potatoes, bagels and peanut butter gets REALLY old. After looking over the spread at St. Helens (the last food stop), I ended up snagging some fruit and riding back one block to the Burgerville for a plain burger and ICE WATER!! It was ~90 Hi Jim,

I kept looking for you, but never saw you. I didn’t end up starting until 5:20am and may have passed you at the Napavine or Winlock rest stops (about the right time). You arrived in Portland about an hour before I did on Sunday (I was meeting the two day riders from my ‘club’ and handing out ice water [see below]) and were probably already gone.

I made it in One Day!! (though it was getting pretty dark by the time I arrived).

Depart Seattle 5:20am
” Spanaway 9:14am
” Centralia 12:30pm (101.5 miles, 17.6mph avg)
” Lexington 4:32pm
” St. Helens, OR 7:05pm
Arrive Portland, OR 8:55pm (104.5 miles, 16.0mph avg)

Overall 12:16 Riding Time (206.2 mi/16.8mph avg)
15:35 Total Time

Comments: The new Litespeed performed flawlessly, no flats, no mechanical trouble. If I ever do one day again though, I’ll add some basic triathlon bars as you need extra position options on such a long ride.

No real aches and pains except for my left knee coming into Spanaway. As usual, it went away after the rest stop and never returned. No saddle sores, thank God for chamois cream!!!

I didn’t have a riding partner which allowed me to control my own pace/schedule, but also didn’t give me somebody to pull me through the inevitable bad stretches. I had planned to minimize my rest stop time, but found it harder to do as the day wore on and it got hotter. A buddy of similar speed would have helped.

I wasn’t able to pick up as many pacelines as I thought I might. Either they were too fast, or the groups were so large (>10) that they became dangerous.

After 175 miles, the same rest stop food of watermelon, oranges, grapes, potatoes, bagels and peanut butter gets REALLY old. After looking over the spread at St. Helens (the last food stop), I ended up snagging some fruit and riding back one block to the Burgerville for a plain burger and ICE WATER!! It was ~90

]]> By: carson http://www.jimcarson.com/2004/seattle-to-portland-stp-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1311 carson Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:03:29 +0000 http://www.jimcarson.com/2004/seattle-to-portland-stp-part-i/#comment-1311 > 6.0%, 4.2% grade, 220' gain - what does this mean Ah, my bad. The original intent was to show the hill is two chunks, a 6% grade of 220' followed by a smaller, 4.2% grade of 60'. I neglected to put the second label on, which caused confusion. I cleaned up the image to simplify things. I carry a Polar S710 heart rate monitor that records altitude. The user interface is weird, but to do this, I tell it I'm doing "laps." It records altitude change, slope, and temperature. (You'll see the little red vertical lines just above the axis.) In this case, I did two "laps" on the hill as it changed grades. When I mouse over, it shows me the info. I also carried a GPS with me, though I'm having some difficulty extracting the information at the moment. > 6.0%, 4.2% grade, 220′ gain - what does this mean

Ah, my bad. The original intent was to show the hill is two chunks, a 6% grade of 220′ followed by a smaller, 4.2% grade of 60′. I neglected to put the second label on, which caused confusion. I cleaned up the image to simplify things.

I carry a Polar S710 heart rate monitor that records altitude. The user interface is weird, but to do this, I tell it I’m doing “laps.” It records altitude change, slope, and temperature. (You’ll see the little red vertical lines just above the axis.) In this case, I did two “laps” on the hill as it changed grades. When I mouse over, it shows me the info.

I also carried a GPS with me, though I’m having some difficulty extracting the information at the moment.

]]> By: Mike Rice http://www.jimcarson.com/2004/seattle-to-portland-stp-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1310 Mike Rice Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:43:55 +0000 http://www.jimcarson.com/2004/seattle-to-portland-stp-part-i/#comment-1310 Hi Jim I saw the profile of STP. Pretty cool stuff. I have a few questions. You show "The Hill" as 6.0%, 4.2% grade, 220' gain. What does that all mean? I would guess that 220' gain means we rose 220' feet in elevation. What does the 6.0% and 4.2% mean? How do you figure this stuff out? I have in the back of my mind a project to categorize the hills of Seattle. I would like to do elevation gain and percent grade, but I have no idea how to do this. I volunteer at CBC and I'm going to talk to someone there about it, but if this information already out there, I would love to see it. Thanks Mike Rice Thanks for your help. Hi Jim

I saw the profile of STP. Pretty cool stuff. I have a few questions. You show “The Hill” as 6.0%, 4.2% grade, 220′ gain. What does that all mean? I would guess that 220′ gain means we rose 220′ feet in elevation. What does the 6.0% and 4.2% mean? How do you figure this stuff out? I have in the back of my mind a project to categorize the hills of Seattle. I would like to do elevation gain and percent grade, but I have no idea how to do this. I volunteer at CBC and I’m going to talk to someone there about it, but if this information already out there, I would love to see it.

Thanks

Mike Rice

Thanks for your help.

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